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Post by Joe Miller on Mar 25, 2020 13:58:16 GMT
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Post by Joe Miller on Mar 25, 2020 14:25:00 GMT
Sorry to everyone about the race restart. There was a huge wreck before we made even one lap and Charlie didn't make the grid so I decided to restart the race. We will occasionally restart a race for the above reasons but we do have a one restart rule. If something happens after one race restart there will not be another. Oval races are something we have not done with this sim so it is a learning experience. I will be considering turning off the full course yellows for the final race in this series. Please hang in there everyone.
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Post by doosekoop on Mar 25, 2020 15:13:02 GMT
My first win in 3 years , whew its been a long drought! great battle at the end!
I thought the restart was fine , not sure why that was an issue.
the yellows are part of oval racing and as it turned out the 2 lap cautions were quick and kept the field closer if someone had an issue.
I had just such an issue! I got a drive-thru at the beginning for an unknown reason but it set me up 28 seconds behind the lead. I used my extensive oval experience to cut that lead to 6 seconds but without that last caution i would never have been in a position to race for the win! thanks to JASON who graced me with his setup i was able to best him at the end! I have found there are a couple aliens in this series and to best one of them is doubly satisfying!! after last race ( toronto from hell ) it was a fun change!
sorry to those who had issues and were unable to finish ( lower your steering sensitivity ) and i hope the fishing was good for the one who ended up in the lake! :-)
hopefully mid ohio is nothing like ( toronto from hell ) and we can have a good race!
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Post by Pete H on Mar 25, 2020 16:08:07 GMT
An interesting and frustrating race. I didn't spend a lot of time setting up my car but the speed differential between the front runners and my car was amazing. I had no wing on, speedway chassis, gear ratio was where I thought it should be and cars were passing me like I was standing still. I couldn't even pick up a tow on anybody except for Brette for some reason I was able to tuck in behind and get dragged along for a long while. i also thought this was a 1 hour race, I should be reading the pre race discussion more closely!
Jut curious why we are having these longer breaks between races, 2 weeks till the next race. I suddenly have a lot of free time and am itching to go racing on line since it looks like our real racing will be put on hold.
Pete
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Post by Ced on Mar 25, 2020 21:13:28 GMT
My main goal for this race and newly joined (or rejoined after a few years) was to not get in anyones way and finish. Well I finished and apologize for the couple that backed off when they got close to my car which leads me to this question. Is there a reason the majority of you are driving a reynard chassis? I picked a swift (Newman Hass) and that car is fine in clean air but get any car around it and it became a handful. So if a faster car was approaching and got within two car lengths the rear wanted to come around. Same if I was following someone and if I tried to pass, even on the outside. Just looking for some clues. Not a newbie to this (just this game) so that's why it's a little confusing.
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Post by Jerry Hamilton on Mar 25, 2020 23:06:23 GMT
Is there a reason the majority of you are driving a reynard chassis? I picked a swift (Newman Hass) and that car is fine in clean air but get any car around it and it became a handful. So if a faster car was approaching and got within two car lengths the rear wanted to come around. Same if I was following someone and if I tried to pass, even on the outside. Just looking for some clues. Not a newbie to this (just this game) so that's why it's a little confusing. Ced,
I'm racing a Swift as well. Picked it for the team. I'm going to send you a note via this website. I had a quick car running on rails last night until I screwed up a penalty.
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Post by Aaron Page on Mar 26, 2020 0:17:13 GMT
First off, congrats to doosekoop for the race win! I know what enduring a drought feels like! Second, I had no problem at all with the race restart, considering that its the first oval we've raced in forever. But, barring someone getting barred from starting or a massively misplaced field, I don't think a habit should made of it, as folks should just assume that they should wait for their tires/brakes to warm up before racing, and to absorb the effects of ignoring the obvious. As far as the full course cautions go, I agree that they weren't a problem (although I did notice that my spotter told me about the yellow flag full seconds after the event, which caused me to split a couple of drivers in front of me -- successfully, thankfully).
As far as my race went, I had very little practice, with all the other events going on around me. Add to that, what practice I had was with the super speedway chassis, which I changed to speedway with 15 minutes to go b4 q (thanks Joe!) (but I had to make a QUICK new setup -- grin). I hadn't made it to the first pit stop before I was in the last survivor place, with no hope of catching anyone, so I just pitted and exited, as I didn't want to be a problem. (and I would have been a problem, because any time someone would pass me on the outside and cut in front of me too quickly I had zippo for steering for a second or two!). Anyway, I get a chance at redemption later on in the season. Glad to see so many turned out for this one.
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Post by Joe Miller on Mar 26, 2020 0:47:37 GMT
My main goal for this race and newly joined (or rejoined after a few years) was to not get in anyones way and finish. Well I finished and apologize for the couple that backed off when they got close to my car which leads me to this question. Is there a reason the majority of you are driving a reynard chassis? I picked a swift (Newman Hass) and that car is fine in clean air but get any car around it and it became a handful. So if a faster car was approaching and got within two car lengths the rear wanted to come around. Same if I was following someone and if I tried to pass, even on the outside. Just looking for some clues. Not a newbie to this (just this game) so that's why it's a little confusing. All chassis are the same. It's a league edition.
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Post by Joe Miller on Mar 26, 2020 1:41:14 GMT
An interesting and frustrating race. I didn't spend a lot of time setting up my car but the speed differential between the front runners and my car was amazing. I had no wing on, speedway chassis, gear ratio was where I thought it should be and cars were passing me like I was standing still. I couldn't even pick up a tow on anybody except for Brette for some reason I was able to tuck in behind and get dragged along for a long while. i also thought this was a 1 hour race, I should be reading the pre race discussion more closely! Jut curious why we are having these longer breaks between races, 2 weeks till the next race. I suddenly have a lot of free time and am itching to go racing on line since it looks like our real racing will be put on hold. Pete Pete, please read your messages. The reason we are taking breaks is so I have time to practice for another series that holds races once a month.
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Post by Martin Rossi on Mar 26, 2020 19:22:48 GMT
Hi guys, I wanted to comment a little on my career, which was spectacular thanks to the set that Tony gave me and to which I made some improvements to my liking, which resulted in having an incredible car, which allowed me to classify in second place and then be able to run. the entire race thoroughly and have it very well balanced, the truth is that I did not know what happened in the second start but I had a stop and go which took me a long time but I could go back and discount second which put me in the race again and I got to fight the end of the race but there came the problem I got the fuel strategy wrong and with one lap left I ran out of gas, with that bitter taste of not knowing what would happen if Jason, Deuce and I ended up fighting the race who would win aajajajjaja, well it was a tough but exciting and fun race at the same time I hope I can stay up there for the next races and fight in the championship, I congratulate He says he made a race and Jason is always there, and all of us who participated in this race will see you next time. sds.
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Post by Tony Boynton on Mar 26, 2020 20:54:12 GMT
Hi guys, I wanted to comment a little on my career, which was spectacular thanks to the set that Tony gave me and to which I made some improvements to my liking, which resulted in having an incredible car, which allowed me to classify in second place and then be able to run. the entire race thoroughly and have it very well balanced, the truth is that I did not know what happened in the second start but I had a stop and go which took me a long time but I could go back and discount second which put me in the race again and I got to fight the end of the race but there came the problem I got the fuel strategy wrong and with one lap left I ran out of gas, with that bitter taste of not knowing what would happen if Jason, Deuce and I ended up fighting the race who would win aajajajjaja, well it was a tough but exciting and fun race at the same time I hope I can stay up there for the next races and fight in the championship, I congratulate He says he made a race and Jason is always there, and all of us who participated in this race will see you next time. sds. Martin- Credit for the setup I used goes to Tom Lebeuf. Jerry practiced with me too and gave me pointers. Several of us used it and I was able to wind up leading for a good number of laps before I blew up. Jason hooked up and let me tow him around until I missed the pit entrance and lost my nose and wing in the grass and ran the apron for a lap to get back in for repairs. Came back out in p7 and found myself following Jason for a lap or so and then it blew up on me - that was that. I had such an unusual experience leading and actually passing cars on the oval, it was very exciting and I want to acknowledge everybody for the clean racing all around me. Sorry to have caused the yellow as I left. Congrats to Deuce, Jason and Martin on the podium.
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Post by Jerry Hamilton on Mar 27, 2020 21:19:58 GMT
I had a great shot at doing really well and screwed it up. Exciting and Exasperating! A very BITTERSWEET racing experience.
THE SWEET: The joy of a very quick car that ran on rails. It was so stable I could have driven it with my left hand using a suicide knob (you youngsters can look it up). During the race there was nary a wiggle, slide, or a wheel put wrong. Mr. Lebeuf provided the setup help – thanks much Tom.
Qualifying in P6 next to my neighbor Mr. Boynton (P5). Tony and I met many years ago racing at CMS. It turns out that he lives about a half hour away and we had both been at the ’56 Sebring race as kids. He took pictures of drivers in the pits with his Brownie and my dad took 8mm movies of the race. We traded copies. Now I have a couple snapshots of Fangio and he has some video of Fangio’s red #17 Ferrari 860 that won. How cool is that….
Running 3rd about 5 seconds behind Tony in P1 and Mr. Whited in P2 until the first pit stop and cheering for Tony. While it lasted we made two over-70 dudes in the top three.
Getting the pit crew to NOT fix the damage after failing at that a few races ago.
The drivers I caught up to that moved to a higher line making the pass easy. Great job by all.
THE BITTER: Making a stupid mistake that ended my race and wasted an excellent opportunity for a good finish.
Getting hit before the first pit stop and pushed into the wall by a car trying to unlap itself. My perfect car was made a little slower.
Making a mistake during the second stint on the lap 84 re-start that resulted in a penalty. I was fourth in line and in P-4. Got a jump on the car ahead and started to pass on his left just when he drifted that way. I jerked further left but had to put 4 wheels on the apron to ensure a clean pass. I’m assuming the Stop & Go penalty was for four wheels over the line and not for passing the car ahead before S/F.
Completely screwing up the S&G a couple laps later and getting a DQ.
CONGRATS TO ALL DRIVERS TAKING THE GREEN FLAG.
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Post by Brette Brooks on Apr 1, 2020 2:56:06 GMT
My main goal for this race and newly joined (or rejoined after a few years) was to not get in anyones way and finish. Well I finished and apologize for the couple that backed off when they got close to my car which leads me to this question. Is there a reason the majority of you are driving a reynard chassis? I picked a swift (Newman Hass) and that car is fine in clean air but get any car around it and it became a handful. So if a faster car was approaching and got within two car lengths the rear wanted to come around. Same if I was following someone and if I tried to pass, even on the outside. Just looking for some clues. Not a newbie to this (just this game) so that's why it's a little confusing. Welcome (or back) to MNRL Ced! Thanks for racing with us in AMS. Hope to see more of you in the future. We rarely oval race. But I can see the allure it has. Like Joe said, All chassis' are the same underneath in the League Edition mod we are using. Just need to pick the best chassis type during Login to the server for speedway racing and dial in a reasonable setup to get up to speed. Joe normally puts up the server a week ahead to allow us to dial in everything and try out our best settings with each other. Reach out for help if you need any.
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Post by Brette Brooks on Apr 1, 2020 3:33:33 GMT
I have to echo Aaron's grats to DooseKoop! Well run race. Just goes to show good strategy and some experience can pay off. Hope to see more of that concentrated effort digging deep after a long drought. Also very nice drives by Jason, Tony, Martin, and Jerry. I thought we might have some attrition. But didn't expect so much. That will likely improve at the next oval race with what we are learning from this one. I hope so anyway.
Thanks to Tony I gained some extra speed in the last day or so with set help. With some minor adjustments for my tastes, I was able to qualify mid pack. Nothing to get excited about. But I was hoping for some good race dynamics as it unfolded. I downloaded the data above to inspect my lap times. That data doesn't show MIS. Perhaps because Joe suffered an early out. Either way, I can tell my car was not as fast as a the night before and I made a few mistakes.
First off, I accidentally tapped Gilles early during a pace run early on and got visable damage to my front wing in the damage monitor. But the car drove fine in clean air and was manageable near others. Sorry for the tap Gilles. But I probably should have had that fixed at the first stop. I think it was holding back my top speed a smidgen lap after lap. The fix time would have been worth it. That is probably why Pete was able to stay in my draft for a few laps before I could pull away. Second, I wish I could have had more practice in a draft with my final set. I'm sure some others feel the same. Was probably a little conservative due to the front damage while drafting others. Third, I could not hear the spotter calling out yellow flag limitations for pitting. I was in a key spot just before my second planned pit when a yellow came out and pitting under yellow would have saved me a lot of time. Jason did what I should have done and suffered no such penalty. Won't let that happen again.
The good: I was able to bring it in to the pits each time without wrecking or wasting too much time on the apron. And was able to keep the revs where I wanted them without burning up the engine. That would have been harder in a more constant tow. All in all, an interesting race for different reasons than most. Especially those last few laps with several of us racing to the flag.
Thanks to all that made the grid and hope to see you in the future!
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Post by Brette Brooks on Apr 1, 2020 3:41:44 GMT
I had a great shot at doing really well and screwed it up. Exciting and Exasperating! A very BITTERSWEET racing experience. THE SWEET: The joy of a very quick car that ran on rails. It was so stable I could have driven it with my left hand using a suicide knob (you youngsters can look it up). During the race there was nary a wiggle, slide, or a wheel put wrong. Mr. Lebeuf provided the setup help – thanks much Tom. Qualifying in P6 next to my neighbor Mr. Boynton (P5). Tony and I met many years ago racing at CMS. It turns out that he lives about a half hour away and we had both been at the ’56 Sebring race as kids. He took pictures of drivers in the pits with his Brownie and my dad took 8mm movies of the race. We traded copies. Now I have a couple snapshots of Fangio and he has some video of Fangio’s red #17 Ferrari 860 that won. How cool is that…. Running 3rd about 5 seconds behind Tony in P1 and Mr. Whited in P2 until the first pit stop and cheering for Tony. While it lasted we made two over-70 dudes in the top three. Getting the pit crew to NOT fix the damage after failing at that a few races ago. The drivers I caught up to that moved to a higher line making the pass easy. Great job by all. *********************************************************************** Cool story Jerry! Good to see you and Tony doing so well. Would like to see some of those Sebring images. I have autographs from 4 of the Grand Prix Legends drivers (Brabham, Surtees, Stewart and Gurney) from historic F1 races in the 90s and 2000s here in the US. And I know what a suicide knob is too.
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